Kail Storm
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.10.05 19:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Bernard Bolzano
Edited by: Bernard Bolzano on 03/10/2009 21:24:49
some nice graphs to start with.
but other info you can draw from these too:
-in bs vs bs scenario the blasters outdps lasers by 20% if you orbit at 5km.
-in bs vs bs scenario the blasters outdps lasers till 10km distance and are about equal till like 12km with CN antimatter.
so assuming gang warfare and the popular buffer rr fits this seems quite fair to me.
group of megas vs group of geddons:
-ehp is quite similar.
-if both groups are below 12km and don't move at all megas deal more(same in 10-12km window) dps, if group distance is above 12km geddons deal more dps.
-so during a rr fight the mega offers more dps and lower cap use if the distance is below 12km, and geddons deliver more dps but more capuse if the fight is farer away then 12km (in this scenario the megas can close range via mwd). of course if the distance between the two groups is way more then 20 that closing range does not rly work that good.
just my 2 cents
This post is on the money to me, A ver yrare and fair analysis of this issue...It seems to be ofne of the hottest most Emotional arguments in eve, and I do suspect it does stem from the GAls owing before and changing after Web NErf.
I keep seeing peeps say well we cant do full dmg without webs, Well hell guys no ship IMO should do full DMg without a Web or TP hell my heavy missles against a way larger target than it was designed to hit in a Harby wil only do 90% Dmg tops without web and hell against a cruiser its ship class i twas made for You are lucky to get 60% dmg on target without a web.
Lets face it without web all ships fail I want to see not what a GAl Ship does without a web but what it does from the 90% pre nerf web till ow, I suspect it isnt to much differant, Please someone do that graph, also Do Ship vs Ship of not just Gal VS Amarr but do cald ships, I bet the Cald ships are torn apart with there big sig radii Hell my drake as a 410m sig radius lol almost the same size as a Minm BS imagine hwta the shield tanked raven or Rokh is,
TL;DR
1]Dont compare Web vs No Web as all weps need web in pvp to be truly effective Heavy missles and Hams which are best missle class`s cant hit much without TP and or WEB for full dmg, IN fact HM vs Gal Cruiser=60% Amarr cruiser=60% Minm=45-50% even cane cant be fully ht with Hm`s.
Torps Cant hit 20% of DMG on cruisers and dont do full dmg on some completely still BS`s lol without Web/TP, so...
Amarr Lasers cant hit much closer than 5km without web or TP and usinmg Beams forget about it lol
Minm Arty has horrible tracking and without the races TP tendency it wouldnt hit anything.
Web is a must in pvp for all races
2]Compare ship to ship of all races
Gal Vs Cald since cald has such huge sig radius when tanked I bet it will rock it with full dmg even our drake which is supposed to be smaller faster target.
Summed up this was supposed to show that the complaints are justified and they were...
Before NERF ON WEBS Gal was way better off, So compare it to 60% vs 90% web and see if the whining about needing 2 webs now is true. But all ships need web to do 100% dmg.
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